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Forget e-mail, forget Notes [as a mail client]. Domino is the key.
~Umberto Nongeroson 3.Oct.02 05:17 PM a Web browser
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"Notes/Domino is as much about eliminating e-mail as anyhting else. Yes, it uses messaging, but the 'knowledge bases' make collaboration more than a game of phone-and-e-mail tag."

Stan, great point! Notes is *not* about e-mail. At first, it was about getting rid of all the paperwork in an organization. Now its about getting rid of all the e-mail! How many e-mail messages do we get daily? I sure have more than enough of my share of e-mail, and if only people would use the DBs, QuickPlaces and what not, my e-mail would be mostly limited to newsletters I get from online news sources and a link/URL to a new posting on my intranet/extranet!

Enough of this e-mail talk. To me, the only real advantage Microsoft has in the e-mail arena is that their "corporate" e-mail client (Outlook) mimics their "consumer" clients' interface (Outlook Express), so users are more familiarized with it. So to most people, the Outlook interface becomes the UI standard...

I'd live out of e-mail if I could :-)
Now I'd be curious to see an Exchange shop try to live out of e-mail :)

I keep remembering of this slide from a Lotusphere presentation where the best point was to sell Domino as a Web Application platform. In other words, we have to do more development of Domino applications to be accessed by browsers. It already is one of the best and fastest platforms for application development. Domino needs to be sold as a web development platform (I tried not to use "web application server" since it is used mostly with J2EE servers these days), not as "the server for Notes Clients".

From where I'm standing, more and more people don't want to deal with bulky clients and have a common interface to their applications: the browser. When you talk about Domino, IT managers specially in corporations that use Exchange don't see the added value of using (generally speaking) as a web application platform. Their first thought is on all the Notes client licenses they will have to purchase. They think Domino is the "Notes Server". Not a web development platform.

What we need is more Domino web-based apps , and less Notes client apps, imho. While we complain that for e-mail the Notes UI is cumbersome and requires training, this does not hold true for web applications developed on top of Domino. In the web app space, we have the advantage: the client platform is ubiquitous: browser; our server platform is the best: Domino

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,

Daniel




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